There’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than just the UI. The handling of dependencies between modules is one aspect, the reporting capabilities are another. In a few weeks we will be releasing the SDK, so you can look for yourself and see what Cobia offers people who want to build modules.

Martin

What does it do that a linux box doesn’t already do? Is it just a fancy UI on top of Linux?

Read Mr. Ptacek’s second comment twice before you comment on it. I didn’t get it the first time through and only picked up on his intent on the second pass. It might be his wording or it may be that I am just tired.

Everybody, for the love of everything that is holy in security…..go forth and go good things.
Cutaway

The list is worth the effort. That site is evil.

Berating you for liking the list is not worth the effort. I’m sure you’ll do something else to restore my respect for you.

Glad to hear you like my writing. I like your’s most of the time as well. I don’t necessarily like being the focus of your writing, but that’s one of the dangers of being a blogger.

I’ve stated my opinion on the itsecurity.com list several times ( http://cobia.stillsecure.com/?q=node/152 http://www.mckeay.net/secure/2007/03/thomas_wins_funniest_im_on_the.html) and I think it’s what someone could throw together fairly quickly and that’s about it. It’s worth every bit of time that person put into it. But it’s only worth a fraction of the energy you’ve put into denouncing the list. Let it go, your continued venom about the list does more to promote the list than anything I’ve written on it.

Do I feel a little tickle at being on the list? Yeah, enough that I linked to the site. It’s an interesting list to be on, but it’s not an authoritative essay on who’s had the most impact in the field of security. Did I keep sending traffic their way afterwards? A little, since our marketing department loved the list and is using it. That’s they’re job, what they’re paid to do. Would I call the list something that “probably needs to be eradicated”? No, and I think that’s more than a bit over the top on your part.

I’ve stated my opinion on the list and if you still have a problem with it, it’s your problem.

Martin

My problem is that everybody involved knows that the ITSECURITY-DOT-COM list is nonsense. Not just “a little wrong”. Total nonsense. But not everyone in the world knows that. Some people, such as (apparently) StillSecure’s marketing, could actually believe that list was representative of the industry.

Martin knows I’m right about this. But Martin isn’t correcting the record. Martin isn’t just wrong. He’s disingenuous. There are 59 other people who don’t show up on that silly list that deserve more recognition than any of us do. Why is Martin pretending that isn’t so?

I like Martin’s writing. I don’t know him, but he seems like a good guy. Let’s convince him to get on the right side of this issue. Places like ITSECURITY-DOT-COM probably need to be eradicated. He can help. He should help.